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Ministerial servant mentions more "empty nester" JW couples getting divorced

by truthseeker in

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i was talking to a ministerial servant today, and the subject of marriage came up.

he said something very interesting, that recently many of the friends he grew up with in the truth (he is in his 30s) are on their second or third marriage.. he also talked about a more recent phenomenon that more empty nester jws (couples whose kids have left home), are deciding they don't want to stay together and are getting divorced.. we're talking about couples who have been married 20, 25, 30 or more years suddenly deciding to call it quits and it's not necessarily that they are looking for someone else; they simply want out of the marriage.. divorce does seem to be on the increase in congregations, especially the last one i attended.. it reminds me of a scripture in malachi we would sometimes hear about "not divorcing the wife of your youth".

why do you think divorce and separation are on the rise among long time married jws?.

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Snoozy,

What did this guy do that is so terrible??? He was unhappy, he got a divorce. Its not his fault his first wife got cancer. Why are you blaming him???

I'm sorry but I was married for 20 years and I was miserable most of the time. The only reason I stayed is because I was a JW and I knew divorce was "bad". Then one day I realized what a bunch of bs it was, and what an idiot I had been for wasting the best part of my life in an unhappy marriage.

News flash: divorce is not a sin, staying in an unhappy marriage is not a virtue. Life is not a rehearsal, this it it.

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Cost cutting! The New world Translation is now a soft cover paperback! Mormon style!

by Witness 007 in

calanders have been shrunk to half {less room for hours} awake is now monthly, the watchtower has a "witness only" edition and now.....the bibles are soft cover like the "book of mormon".......less cash out i guess..

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Fortunately for the uber-JWs, there are half-a dozen outfits out there that will put a snazzy leather binding on your NWT. They'll even monogram your initials on it too. They'll do your songbook too.

And the paperback books used for the book study, most dubs take them to Kinko's now and get them spiral-bound. Its sturdier and its easy to lay flat.

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Hypothetically, If Someone Created a Fake Congregation to Trick Another...

by OnTheWayOut in

let's just stay hypothetical.

if someone wanted to create a fake congregation in 7-miles-from-nowhere, north dakota (7-m-f-n, n.d. congregation) in order to trick the elders at another congregation, what could they get away with?.

just assume that they use a p.o.

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Ok instead of a phony congregation, all it would take is infiltrating a real cong... this could take considerable time and effort, probably more than its worth. But I think if someone like myself wanted to, it would not take much to go back, do some world-class groveling, get back in, this person could be an elder in 5 years.

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Hypothetically, If Someone Created a Fake Congregation to Trick Another...

by OnTheWayOut in

let's just stay hypothetical.

if someone wanted to create a fake congregation in 7-miles-from-nowhere, north dakota (7-m-f-n, n.d. congregation) in order to trick the elders at another congregation, what could they get away with?.

just assume that they use a p.o.

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Hey I used to live in ND, I know plenty of small towns that could be the site of this new congregation. Except even a cursory glance at a map would probably be enough to kill the charade (Finley, population... 27!?!)

Better would be to pose as say, a suburb congregation. There's a dozen of them, who knows what the name of all of them are. And they don't have their own Hall, they share with some other (real) congregation. "Yes Im from the Spruce Park Congregation here in Minneapolis, we share a hall with Blaine..."

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Michael Jackson cries after celebrating first christmas

by shopaholic in

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i know you all are tired of hearing about michael jackson but after seeing this video, i was reminded of the guilt that lingers after the leaving the jw religion.

as i understand it, his primary reason for leaving was because latoya was df'd and he didn't like having to chose between religion and family.

sounds familiar?.

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Thats a nice clip of him, one of the few where he seems like a real person, not like he's not acting or reading from a script. And the fact that he felt guilty about it, I think we can all relate to that.

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df'd and assemblies.

by ptrehearn152 in

hi newbie here, i have a question that is begining to bug me a little.

i am not a jw or ever will be but my partner was some years ago and quite devout about the religeon then she was df'd for commiting adultry with another man (not me) who was not a jw, she got divored from her jw husband and left behind her 2 boys and went to live with 'the other man', anyway over the years her relationship with her 2 boys began to grow again and now she see's them once every 2 weeks, i should perhaps point out that her ex is a devout jw, she has told me that she would like to at some point go back to the 'hall' and carry on her religeon, i said that i dont have a problem with that but, i wasn't keen on the idea of her walking the streets knocking on doors due to the amount of hatred that some poeple clearly have for jw's and the fact that we now seem to live in a violent world, yes i know that jw's have to do so much 'service work', she has told me that she has not visited a hall since her df so therefore has not repented her sins as it were but on sunday she said that there was an assembly in our local vicinity (it's the annual one) and she would like to go.

i found this a bit odd that someone who had been df'd would be allowed to go to the jw's event of the year so began to wonder if whilst visiting her sons she maybe did visit the hall to somehow show repent with a view to be allowed back into the faith.

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ptrehearn152,

nameless_one has summarized the situation very well. JWs have a double standard when it comes to religous freedom, its ok when people leave their former religion to become a JW, its totally wrong for a JW to leave and go to another religion. Any religion that punishes people who simply want to leave is not a regular religion.

reniaa, I don't disagree with everything you post here, but you have a lot of nerve whining about how JWs are "demonized" here. Pot, meet kettle. I dare you to find one reference in Watchtower publications that says anything the least bit positive about former JWs.

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3 disfellowshippings at London Branch

by yadda yadda 2 in

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saw this on e-watchman's discussion forum: http://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=3133&pid=34199&st=0&#entry34199.

anyone know if it's true?

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I think if more JWs understood more clearly the Watchtower doctrine that most of the New Testament is only for the anointed, they would realize they really are second-class citizens in their own religion.

Personally, I used it to my advantage, when someone told me I needed to be preaching in harmony with Matt 24:14, etc, I just said, hey, that's for the anointed, not for lowly other sheep like me!

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PHOTOS - Does the WTS change them?

by hamsterbait in

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in line with ritchie rich's thread where abad points out that the wts has an ongoing editing policy for the littermanure.. they have heavily edited the bound volumes as opposed to the original ragazines.

they even got rid of kingdumb melodies from the song book, because their composer turned away.

ditto the aid book.. has anyone noticed if they remove people from old photos who are no longer approved?

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Ok why does there appear to be a missing post on the first page of this thread??? Apparently GaryBuss had posted the orginal source of a picture from the Live Forever book, from some book or magazine called Stern? But where is this post?

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